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'To His Coy Mistress' - Andrew Marvell, 'The Flea' - Richard Donne. Which of the two poets is more likely to succeed in the seduction of the two women?

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'To His Coy Mistress' - Andrew Marvell 'The Flea' - Richard Donne Which of the two poets is more likely to succeed in the seduction of the two women? At first glance it seemed to me obvious that Marvell would unquestionably be more successful in seducing the woman. Marvell because he shows more emotion and sincerity (baring the second stanza) towards the woman who he is talking to, however after considering Donne's unorthodox approach I was into rethinking my decision. I do believe however that both men are not as genuine as they look in their attempts to show their 'love' for the women. Donne starts off well in his poem well the tone is bright humorous and intimate. He praises the girl and says that if they had all the time in the world then he wouldn't mind waiting until she loved him. ('Had we but world enough and time, This Coyness lady would be no crime'). This to me is a good way to start, he Marvell keeps the tone light ant affectionate and emotional ('For, Lady you deserve this state, and nor would I love at lower rate.') ...read more.


He states that they cannot stop themselves from dying but they can make the most of their lives and make the sun which sets on their life run. ('Thus we cannot make our sun Stand still, yet we will make him run.') This proposition may have been irrefutable had it not been for the second stanza. 'To his coy mistress is undoubtedly Marvell's most popular poem today. It is similar in some ways to some of John Donne's love poems. It is however rather more than jus a seduction poem. The first stanza of "The Flea" differs from 'To His Coy Mistress' although both poets have the same aims. Donne's argument seems rather pathetic and unorthodox. He talks of a flea that has bitten him and the woman who he is talking to. He then argues that because both of there blood is mixed inside this flea that they are practically married ('Oh stay, three lives in one flea spare, Where we almost, yea more than married'). The woman who he is talking to seems to find this argument petty but when she goes to squash this seemingly insignificant creature Donne bombards her with even more ridiculous, but yet hypnotically interestingly arguments to keep her interested. ...read more.


Both poets make very strong arguments and use there intelligence and understanding with great affect however, in my opinion Donne's argument is not as solid as Marvell & leaves himself open to rejection. Marvell was more complimentary of the woman and seemed more seducing as his poem was more of a traditional romance poem. Both use very different angles to create their own interpretations of a love poem and win over the girl. However their real purpose I believe is somewhat different than what it seems. Whilst reading the two poems it became apparent to me that both men do not truly actually love the woman they are talking to however they wish only to lead them into bed. There is evidence of this within 'To his Coy Mistress' as he spends most of the first stanza talking of her physical beauties without a mention of her personality. This 'act' however seems to fool the two women. The two poems are great to read and in a way show what men and women think of each other the extent people go through to find love and the need for love within human life. Written any differently and the poems would not have had the same affect on millions of readers. ????????????????????? ...read more.

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