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Pick out two ways in which Plato's ideas might be described as totalitarian. Explain in which way they might be totalitarian. Do you think that they are in fact totalitarian? Argue for your view carefully with reference to both Crito and The Republic

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Pick out two ways in which Plato's ideas might be described as totalitarian. Explain in which way they might be totalitarian. Do you think that they are in fact totalitarian? Argue for your view carefully with reference to both Crito and The Republic. �zkan Bugra TELEMEZ 20300347 PHIL241 Sec.09 Sandrine BERGES Telemez 1 �zkan Bugra TELEMEZ 20300347 IR PHIL241. SEC.09 ESSAY QUESTION: Pick out two ways in which Plato's ideas might be described as totalitarian. Explain in which way they might be totalitarian. Do you think that they are in fact totalitarian? Argue for your view carefully with reference to both Crito and The Republic. Plato's "Crito" describes Socrates, an Athenian philosopher who chooses to die for an ideal. In the text, Socrates is condemnded to death and sitting in jail. At this time, Crito, a friend of Socrates comes to rescue him. Socrates has many followers who hope he will agree to escape. When Crito comes to take on this position, Socrates refuses to his arguement and also the plan of escape. In "The Republic", Socrates, visiting Polemarchus' house, enters into a conversation on the nature of justice. Several various definitions are presented by the different guests. After finding each of these incapable, Socrates attempts to define justice himself. This requires that he first describe justice on the scale of the "ideal state". ...read more.

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State is giving all the life opportunities such as education, birth, nutrition so they must satisfy the ruler in order to keep the order be stable and gratitude him for giving this advantages, otherwise, he can take his possession and his conditions and use them against the society. Ruler of Telemez 3 the country has power to control citizens live and exercise them. We saw this kind of skimp in near history, in Saddam's Iraq, Hitler's Germany and Mussolini's Italy. Citizens are afraid of them and they applied their ruler's laws in order to live in peace and in order. In my opinion, citizens need a authority to keep them in order but also this authority needs citizens, otherwise there is no state. State must treat its citizens justly and give them rights to live. Socrates is defending the totalitarian system and he mentions that he cannot abandon the principles which he used to hold in the past simply because this accident has happened to him. He knows that obeying his death sentence will strengthen Athens' fledgling system of law. As I mentioned before, totalitarianism is the political power which is concentrated in one bloc, and the ruled have no alternative. On this definition, the ideal state of Socrates called "Kallipolis" in "The Republic" is totalitarian. He argues that citizens without knowledge should concede that only philosophers have knowledge (The Republic, 414c-415e, Book III) ...read more.

Conclusion

giving you the property of being a citizen, but the ones which educate you, nurtured you are your father and your mother. Being a father is not a mission, this is a process of what nature orders. Surely, you can fight for your country with nationalistic emotions and you can die for your nation but you cannot refuse the holiness of being a father and mother. Socrates is drawing a portrait of totalitarian and he refuses the loftiness of being a father and mother. Telemez 5 In conclusion, we must accept Plato's ideas as totalitarianism with the respect of the definition of totalitarianism. In the text "Crito", Socrates refuses to give in to the 'eye for an eye' method of justice. Since Socrates is unable to convince those who ruled against him, he believes that he has no alternative but obey his sentence. Though escape would be easy, it could only lead to more corruption in the system that found him guilty. As a totalitarian, Socrates is willing to give up his life to Athens, not as a solider, but as an example of obedience to the law. Also in "The Republic" , obeying the philosopher class can be count as totalitarian. As I thought before, you have to be much more careful to classify the society as rulers or ruled. A life ruled by one ruler may cause chaos, and wound people emotionally if the state has a low charismatic and low educated ruler. ...read more.

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