Compare and contrast Marx and Engels with Mill regarding social and economic progress

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Compare and contrast Marx and Engels with Mill regarding social and economic progress

To understand what these two different philosophies tell us about the nature of social and economic progress it is important to clearly establish, for the purpose of this essay, a definition of the word progress. Many philosophers see progress as being a positive, continuous advancement into the future where, if we do not gain full scientific and empirical knowledge of our surroundings one day, then we will at least gain a deeper knowledge of our lives than we at present possess. If we can therefore have a fuller understanding of our surroundings there leaves the further question of whether we will ever reach a stage of progression where we can have complete knowledge of the more abstract concepts of man’s social and moral ‘perfectibility’. Marx, Engels and Mill attempt to demonstrate how this ‘perfectibility’ may be reached and/or will be reached with their contrasting (Marx and Engels vs Mill) views of social and economic progress. ((The most prominent similarity of these philosophers is the emphasis that they all put on freedom as being the ultimate goal of human progress.))

Marx and Engels believe that this ‘perfectibility’ would be reached through a material process. They reject the views of the young Hegelians. These new Hegelian followers re-interpreted Hegel’s idealist philosophy that illustrates history as the progress of the ‘Mind’, thus the spiritual side of the Universe, into history being an account of human self-consciousness freeing itself from the illusions that prevent it from achieving self understanding and freedom. Marx and Engels disagreed with this new interpretation and also disagreed with the idealist views of Hegel himself. They decided that it is not the ideas and thoughts of individuals or society as a whole that drives progress forward but it is the material circumstances under which people live that determines how they think and act; in their own words ‘Consciousness does not determine life, but life determines consciousness’. These two philosophers therefore believe, like Feurbach (an extremely influential philosopher, especially on Marx) that philosophy must begin with the finite, material world as this is the only way that philosophical problems may be overcome; thought does not precede existence, existence precedes thought. For example in an article written by Marx titled ‘The Jewish Question’ the racist and stereotypical nature of the Jew is discussed. The majority of people at that time, under the Hegelian influence, would see with their ‘idealist eyes’ that the problem of Jews is in religious consciousness which could be resolved by establishing a new way of thinking. However Marx clearly points out that the problem does not lie in anything spiritual but is within society itself; therefore society would need to be re-organised in order for bargaining to be abolished and this problem on ‘The Jewish Question’ would be resolved. Materialists therefore believes in ‘the unity of theory and practice’, thus explaining how the active side of materialism, the practical human activity, must be used to solve philosophical, theoretical problems. Marx and Engels believe that “The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it”. This statement reiterates this emphasis that materialism places on being active rather than passive where one must re-shape the world to solve problems that are inherent in it, rather than simply reshaping our ideas. Only by changing the material world can society progress and reach ultimate freedom in a communist revolution. (see para …)

Engel’s explains, in ‘The End of Classical German Philosophy’, that the ‘great basic question’ of philosophy ‘is that concerning the relation of thinking and being’. He believed that philosophers have split into two main sects over this question; ‘Those who asserted the primacy of spirit to nature….and the others, who regarded nature as primary’ (materialist). John Stuart Mill falls under the former definition and in doing so is, like Hegel, an idealist. As an Idealist Mill uses the thought process (e.g. rational thought) to understand how the material world adheres to certain ideas. These ideas are constantly changing and progressing and are remoulding the changes and progressions being made in the material world.  Mill lived through a period of time where great social change was occurring. In the C19th religious beliefs were eroding as no new faiths developed. Therefore a ‘general source of ideas and maxims of morality and politics’ (Routledge Philosophy Guidebook) took their place. It is also important to note at this stage the very obvious feature of John Stuart Mill which is his liberalism. Liberalism rests on the concept of freedom, a concept that is the key element to Mill’s ‘On Liberty’ which is an important text to study in order to understand his views on social and economic progress. Mill explains, in his works, the liberal utilitarian system of belief that he hopes will one day replace the Christian doctrine. As an idealist he supposes that this ‘liberty of thought’ (‘On Liberty’ ) ‘shall not, like other former creeds…..require to be periodically thrown off and replaced by others’. He therefore believes that it is the ideas and thoughts of a society that shapes its progress and once these ideas reach ‘perfectibility’ a world of freedom and happiness will be created. (WRITE ABOUT UTILITARIANISM HERE)

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 It is important to note, as J.B. Bury points out in his Introduction to ‘The Idea of Progress’, that progress involves a ‘synthesis of the past and a prophecy of the future’ which is based on an ‘interpretation of history’. We must therefore look at these philosophers interpretations of history to understand how their view of past events has shaped their theory of the future and future progression in society.

Engels called his and Marx philosophy of history ‘the law of development of human history’. View of world history: The first premise of world history is the existence ...

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