Introduction to the History of Modern Philosophy.

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Introduction to the History of Modern Philosophy

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  1. Plato and Hobbes would both answer the question by stating that a rose is not red in the dark, however they would have separate reasons for believing this based on their view of perception.  Plato would say that the rose is not red because there would firstly be no motion between the eye and the rose, in the same way we cannot see at night because the fire from the eye cannot be attracted to the fire from the daylight, because there is no motion. The eye would not see the rose, therefore although it involves the eye, there is nothing “appropriate” for it to interact with, therefore there is no birth of whiteness.  Plato states in the passage, “ These could not have been born if either the eye or what it saw had gone to anything else.”  Thus if there is no motion between the eye and the rose, and the rose and the eye, the eye does not become filled with vision, and then see and then become a seeing eye, and therefore it does not give birth to colour. There is no mutual interaction between the two, and things only come into being by mutual interaction.  Plato stated that nothing exists as a self-contained unit, it has the potential to become something for someone. Therefore the rose would not be red in the dark.  

Hobbes would agree with Plato insofar as saying that the rose would not be red in the dark and that motion plays an important part in the explanation.  The reason the rose would not be red is because no motion would be spread from the “shining, luminous and illuminated body,” to the eye, thus to the optic nerve and to the brain.  Hobbes states that when, “there is no light, there is no sight.”  Therefore if there is no sight there is no colour, and thus the rose would not be red.  Hobbes states that “colour must be the same thing as light,” in this instance there is no colour produced.  Therefore if there is no motion the rose could not been seen firstly and secondly would not be coloured.  

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  1. Plato states in the Theaetetus, “ when the eye and something appropriate to it approach each other, they give birth both to whiteness and to its twin sensation.”  This would suggest a causal link between the birth of whiteness and sensation.  Sensation is caused by the actions of slow motions which give birth to faster motions, which in turn give birth to motion.  The slow motions are passive motion, while the faster motions are the active motions, which are the sensations or the sensory qualities.  Plato states at the end of the passage, “ All the others ...

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