What difficulties arise in describing the international political theory of Hobbes and Rousseau as 'realist'?

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What difficulties arise in describing the international political theory of Hobbes and Rousseau as ‘realist’?

It could be argued both ways that the international political theory of Hobbes and

Rousseau could be described as realist, or could not be described as realist at all. Is

there a different theme of realism that runs through both of their writings or are they

writing independently and does the  theme of realism only show through

consequentially.

Hobbes then was interested to see how human beings would act without government

and rules, which he depicted in his writings in the first chapter of ‘Leviathan, 'Of

Man'. This study by Hobbes led to his belief that some form of legitimate governing

body could be justified. ‘Leviathan’ first published in 1651 was Hobbes writing on

what he felt it was to be human and how we could best live in the state and how it

could have control over them. ‘Leviathan’ then raises a number of points that are both

truthful but are yet contended by others, notably Rousseau.

 Hobbes writing came at a very violent and anarchical time. The most notable event

being the English Civil War, which took place between 1642-1648. Bearing this fact

in mind it is quite easy to see why Hobbes views human nature with some contempt.

In ‘Leviathan’, Hobbes main writings try to show how he thinks humans would act

without government, moral values and the basic concept of society, which he titles,

'The Natural Condition of Mankind' or 'The State of Nature'.

From this vision of mankind, Hobbes then gives rules on how to govern legitimately

and correctly. However, Hobbes arguments have generated a number of criticisms.

In ‘Leviathan’, Hobbes spends a great deal of time discussing and finding out what

exactly human nature is. This comes to fruition in his description of the natural

condition of mankind, in chapter one of ‘Leviathan’. Hobbes comes to the conclusion

that the state of nature has never actually existed and that it is a fictional tool that

allows him to compare man to a colony of barbarians and show how then, people

without government would act.

The state of nature then for Hobbes is the equivalent to a state of war: the constant

compulsion to fight. All men he argues have the natural right to self-preservation,

betterment and defence, and have the right to do anything they deem necessary which

will ensure this stays the same. Although all men have the right to possess everything

they need to protect and better their lives, there is no right to exclusively own

anything and therefore no property and no security. As Hobbes argues then, the state

of nature is defined by, "continuall feare and danger of violent death; And the life of

man, solitary, poore, nasty, brutish and short." (Hobbes, Leviathan, Oxford University

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Press, 1998, p84).

 Hobbes then sees people basically as simple, rational beings who are simply

governed by passions combined with reason. One passion, Hobbes claims that will

never cease to exist is for another person to exert their superiority over other people.

This then means that people will never stop competing for superiority over others, be

it over power, status or recognition. This then brings out one crucial point in the

Hobbesian argument, when two people compete for the same objective, they will

undoubtedly become foes ...

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