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The plays 'Miss Julie', August Strindberg, 1888 and 'A Doll's House', Henrik Ibsen, 1879 are two plays with a variety of themes and different views of life. But both plays have women

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JULIE X NORA - THE ROLE OF THESE WOMEN VIS-�-VIS MEN The plays 'Miss Julie', August Strindberg, 1888 and 'A Doll's House', Henrik Ibsen, 1879 are two plays with a variety of themes and different views of life. But both plays have women as their major characters: Julie and Nora Helmer. The role of women in both plays is shown to be different. In "Miss Julie", Strindberg shows women as inferior in society, as he believed that they were a secondary form of humans. In "A Doll's House", at first, we think that Nora is a typical innocent wife. This leads Ibsen to relate women seen by society, as wives, mothers, and working at home. Ibsen wants to reinforce the subordination of the role of women to show the need for changes. A comparative study will be made of the lives of these two women and the role they occupy in each play. Julie is the mistress of the house, with Jean, the valet and Kristin, the cook. All the events and problems happening in the play could be a result of certain circumstances: first, her feminist mother's primary instincts about men made her disgusted and horrified about them. The absence of her father leads to an incomplete rising of herself. ...read more.


Nora enjoyed the power women have with their feminine charm. She used it to be able to get what she wants, to manipulate her husband. With minor acts, the subordination and inferior role of women starts to be clearly seen. Torvald didn't have an interaction with the children like Nora, as this was the "women's role". He was always telling her to do things like to take care of the house and to play with the children. With events occurring, we discover that Nora is not so innocent and in a conversation with Mrs. Linde she tells some facts that reveal her to be another person, not that innocent wife. She shows to be able to lie about significant things to her husband. She tells that once she travelled with her husband who was very ill. She forged the signature of her father and used borrowed money to pay for the trip. To pay what she owes, she still has to ask money to Torvald. In a certain way, it was a well - intentioned action although illegal. She had done that to save her husband. "I've something to be proud of. ...read more.


Nora realizes that Torvald is devoted not to her but to the idea of her as someone who depends on him. So at this point, with courage and determination, she decides to leave her children, her house and her husband and go out into the world alone, in the desire of independence and of discovering herself. She shows the important sacrificial role of women, who leaves everything behind to survive, to be accepted and pursue her own identity. "A Doll's House" wants to show the importance of women's realization of the inferiority put in them, and that they should not be seen as so dependent on men but as a person herself with proper triumphs and aims in life. The author wants to pass a message to women so that they can understand the subordinate position they are put in by society and change their attitudes. The titles of both plays have a say about the story of each one. "A Doll's House" passes the idea of a perfect family place just like a dollhouse would be like. It doesn't centralize Nora, but the environment where she lives. But, the play given the title of "Miss Julie" reinforces the idea of a woman, showing Julie to be the main issue of that play. ?? ?? ?? ?? Antonio Carlos Tostes - 10H 04/05/2007 1 ...read more.

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