Study Marvell's"To his coy mistress" and Shakespeare's "Sonnet 60"
Study Marvell´s "To his coy mistress" and Shakespeare´s "Sonnet 60" Discuss how these two poets use the concept of time and to what purpose. Both poems have various characteristics in common, as well as various which differ. They both talk about and focus on the inevitable and unstoppable passing of time. However, whilst Marvell uses the idea of "Carpe Diem", Shakespeare prefers to use the power of his verse to express the strength of his love. The main idea or message in Marvell´s poem is to try to persuade his Mistress that being "coy" isn´t practical, because time passes and beauty too. In the first section of his poem, he imagines time as everlasting, as if it were a fantasy. In the second section, he changes the tone of his message from fantasy to reality, therefore he talks about the way in which she will grow old, her beauty will fade and "worm´s shall try that long preserv´d Virginity" which means that once she´s dead and in her tomb, only worms will want her. His final section focuses on the solution to her problem, her coyness. He reccons that this solution is basacally use the time you have, as you cannot stop it. Shakespeare, on the other hand, uses the concept of death more. Also uses similes to try to describe the way in which our lifes all head to the same point, the same end: death. But he prefers to focus on the preservation of his love´s beauty and
Compare and contrast 'To his coy mistress' by Andrew Marvell and 'The Flea' by John Donne. Would you say both poems are about seduction?
Compare and contrast 'To his coy mistress' by Andrew Marvell and 'The Flea' by John Donne. Would you say both poems are about seduction? Both 'To his coy mistress' and 'The Flea' are poems about seduction, there is three parts to each poem. Written in the early 16th century. The both argue the case for taking their relationships further with their mistress'. Both poets are metaphorical poets and write dramatic monologues. In 'to his coy mistress' Marvell argues his case for furthering his relationship with 'coy mistress' and that time is 'hurrying near' so they should take it further before its too late and they are no longer alive. To make his point of argument he applies this point in three parts. The first being about the state of argument the second being everything to do and to come with the argument along with his feelings and the third part being the conclusion of the argument. Whilst making the argument the poet uses conceits that are illogical comparisons along with couplets, which were lines that rhymed and were popular and used quite frequently back then. The first two lines of the poem set the tone of showing that Marvell was arguing the case of seduction and motivating their relationship, 'Were no crime' and that time was running out. He is also saying that 'his cot mistress' should hide her shyness and do something that she knows is wrong. The poet makes all
A comparison of two poems about love.
Samantha Petrook A comparison of two poems about love When I was given the assignment of analyzing love poems, I expected to be reading slushy love rhymes about how much someone loves someone else; love at first sight, young love, marriage, the list is endless. However the poems I was given to read were very different to most people's ideas of love poetry. They were about pain and breakups, accidental outcomes of a relationship, use and abuse, these things are not usually related with love. The poems I chose were 'To His Coy Mistress' by Andrew Marvell a pre 1900 poem and 'Our Love Now' by Martyn Lowery which is a modern poem. 'To His Coy Mistress' is a long, personal and flattering poem all at once. The layout is like a love letter, and makes the reader think that this man is trying to persuade his lover and has really taken time to think of something meaningful to say. He uses imagery to charm her, believing her to be coy- shy modest. He uses the image of skin as sexy. He also makes crude but flattering remarks and shows her that she is, in a way, in control of the situation. 'Our Love Now' is made up of alternate statements made by two people about their failing relationship. The man has a rather more hopeful attitude towards their relationship, looking to the future to find healing for whatever has happened, whilst the woman is less hopeful, focusing on the
Both the "Ruined Maid" and "To His Coy Mistress" provide us with disturbing images / pictures of love and relationships. Explain.
Leonie Fitzgerald Miss Collis. Both the "Ruined Maid" and "To His Coy Mistress" provide us with disturbing images / pictures of love and relationships. Explain. Both the "Ruined Maid" and "To His Coy Mistress" provide us with disturbing images / pictures of love, sex and relationships as I am about to explain. The "Ruined Maid" was written by Thomas Hardy in 1866, during the time when women didn't have sex before marriage and they were thrown out of their village for being "ruined". The public at that point in history had a very strict view of sex and marriage. They thought that women in particular should never have sex before marriage and they should have everything taken off them for being "ruined". They were looked upon as a disgrace to society. The "Ruined Maid" provides us with disturbing images and pictures of love and relationships because the poem is about a woman who has become "ruined" which means that she's had sex before marriage. She's turned the meaning of this into a good thing while most people thought that it was a bad thing because it meant that the woman had no self-respect and that they were looked upon as prostitutes in a sense. The poem starts with Melia and a woman talking about Melia's life and how she's been because the woman hadn't seen her in a while, only to her surprise
Comparing Message and To his coy mistress.
Comparing Message and To his coy mistress Message by Wendy Cope It is about a woman who is waiting for a man to ring her. She is getting very anxious. She gives the impression she hasn't had much luck with men in her life and wants to meet someone special before it's too late. She wants the man to ring her up because she thinks it will be hard to find anyone else like him "Good, old-fashioned men like you are rare". She thinks she has found love this time; she suggests that she has had other relationships that weren't successful. She exaggerates a lot and uses irony to make a serious point. "Well, wouldn't it be nice to consummate our friendship while we've still got teeth and hair?" To his coy mistress by Andrew Marvell The poem is about a man whose girlfriend is very shy; he wants to sleep with her but she is too shy. He is saying that if he had all the time in the world then he wouldn't mind her being shy. "Had we but world enough, and time, this coyness Lady were no crime". Near to the end he gets more serious and says that if he doesn't take her virginity then when she is dead worms will take it. Both poets are adopting a persona of someone else, as does the comedian Victoria Wood. They both show similarity to one of her sketches where she wanted to have sex with her husband before they grew too old and frail. They are both showing anxiety with members of the
'To His Coy Mistress' - Andrew Marvell, 'The Flea' - Richard Donne. Which of the two poets is more likely to succeed in the seduction of the two women?
'To His Coy Mistress' - Andrew Marvell 'The Flea' - Richard Donne Which of the two poets is more likely to succeed in the seduction of the two women? At first glance it seemed to me obvious that Marvell would unquestionably be more successful in seducing the woman. Marvell because he shows more emotion and sincerity (baring the second stanza) towards the woman who he is talking to, however after considering Donne's unorthodox approach I was into rethinking my decision. I do believe however that both men are not as genuine as they look in their attempts to show their 'love' for the women. Donne starts off well in his poem well the tone is bright humorous and intimate. He praises the girl and says that if they had all the time in the world then he wouldn't mind waiting until she loved him. ('Had we but world enough and time, This Coyness lady would be no crime'). This to me is a good way to start, he Marvell keeps the tone light ant affectionate and emotional ('For, Lady you deserve this state, and nor would I love at lower rate.') On the other hand he mentions only her physical beauties and there is no mention of her personality ('Two hundred to adore each breast but thirty thousand to the rest'). Although it keeps an intimate mood it gives a hint that he only wants her for her body i.e. to have sex, and he does not really love her and this could be a vital mistake.
To His Coy Mistress Andrew Marvell (1621-1678) To the Virgins, to Make Much of Time Robert Herrick (1591-1974) Analyse and compare persuasive content of the two poems
GENRE: POETRY PERSUASIVE CONTENT To His Coy Mistress ANDREW MARVELL (1621-1678) To the Virgins, to Make Much of Time ROBERT HERRICK (1591-1974) Analyse and compare persuasive content of the two poems These two poems are basic examples of a poet attempting to use his skill with words to persuade someone to perform an action; in "To His Coy Mistress", Marvell is attempting to persuade a lady to have sex with him, and in "To the Virgins, to Make Much of Time", Herrick is trying to inspire an imaginary (I hope) group of harem girls into mental motivation, so their 'physical' motivation will be at it's peak once the customer has paid his fee. This essay will analyse how the poets' use of language and content manage to make the reader believe that, if they were this person being plied, then they would be convinced of his frankness and honesty. The poems will be compared, and a conclusion shall be drawn at the end which will state my opinion concerning which poem is better at communicating the author's intent to persuade. The titles of the poems require an analysis at first; the word 'coy' is a word which suggests emotive, quietly reserved, quaint and effectively coquette. This actually adds a touch of humour to the poem, because it forms an image in the reader's imagination of this desperate man chatting up this Lady (requires a capital L) who has such high-class manners,
A comparison of 'Easy' by Andrew Fusek Peters with Andrew Marvell's 'To his Coy Mistress'.
December 13th Comparison of Poems W.J.E.C. COURSEWORK Pre 20th Century Writing A comparison of 'Easy' by Andrew Fusek Peters with Andrew Marvell's 'To his Coy Mistress'. After reading the two poems in detail and after doing group analysis the following points were brought up for a further evaluation. These were: theme, ideas, language, imagery and personal opinion. Both poems deal with seduction and relationships but vary of how it is done. In the poem 'Easy', SEX seemed to be the biggest issue. The relationship here was more of a 'one time fling' or a 'one night stand' type of relationship where the characters only pursue love of a sexual nature and nothing more. As we have seen later in the poem, one member of this relationship is always left distraught. They are left to feel worthless, with an extremely low self-esteem. Although with 'To his Coy Mistress', there seemed to be love set on a different plateau as admiration and praise had been given before the interaction of the two took place which showed respect and appreciation for their partner, but this second poem only goes up as far as to verbal seduction and the aftermath of it was never seen and so the consequences (if there were any) could not have been seen by the reader. Many speculations in the class were delivered during class about the 'seductor' of the second poem to be just as cruel as the one of 'Easy'.
Compare the theme of seduction in "To his coy mistress" and "The seduction"
Josephine Sowden Compare the theme of seduction in "To his coy mistress" and "The seduction" The poem "to his coy mistress" was written by Andrew Marvell between 1621 and 1678. However "The seduction" (which was written by Eileen McAuley-a woman) was written much later, in the 1980's. Both poems are about a man trying to persuade a woman to sleep with him. In "THCM" the man uses flattery and persuasion "For lady you deserve this state." In this poem however we never actually discover if he was successful in persuading her. In "The seduction" he seduces her using alcohol in the hope that she will sleep with him if she is drunk. In this poem we do discover that he is successful as the girl becomes pregnant. In "THCM" the male is narrating for example "our" and "we." In "The seduction" neither of the characters narrates. It is written in third person "He lead her to the quite bricks of Birkenhead docks." Throughout the entire poem no names are used "he" and "she." I think this symbolises that the situation is quite common. In both poems our sympathies are with the women. We sympathise with the women in "The seduction" because she becomes pregnant and truly regrets her actions "So she cried that she had missed all the innocence around her." In "THCM" our sympathy is also with the woman as she is being pressurised into to having sex even though she might not want to. The men
Andrew Marvell was a poet and an MP for Hull.
Andrew Marvell was a poet and an MP for Hull. He wrote the poem in the 17th Century. In the first stanza he uses persuasive techniques such as flattery. The speaker tells his mistress what they could achieve in their relationship if they had enough time. You have heard the expression all the time in the world. That is what the speaker is referring to in line 1. He is saying that if they had all the time in the world, her coyness would not matter. He mentions religion from Noah's Flood (line 8) until 'the conversion of the Jews' in line 10. He mentions religion so that he can make her believe what he is saying. In lines 11-12, the speaker states that his: My vegetable love should grow vaster than empires and more slow; 'My vegetable love' is a metaphor. This growth would eventually overtake empires bigger than those of the Romans. Thus his love is big enough to fill time and space. It is also a metaphor. He would spend so much time adoring her. However in the second stanza he writes about death. The argument in this section is based on the fact that people do not have the kind of time span that the speaker imagines in the first section. Instead of having all the centuries of time to wait for the lady, he tells her that he hears 'Time's winged chariot' hurrying close behind him. Time is personified as the driver of a chariot. Chariots were swift moving war machines ridden
